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		<title>Comment on Asterisk and Amazon EC2 &#8211; Video Presentation by i6net &#187; VXI* Cloud Beta Program is now available</title>
		<link>http://blog.greenfieldtech.net/?p=37&#038;cpage=1#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>i6net &#187; VXI* Cloud Beta Program is now available</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on Rich platform, Poor documentation by jicksta</title>
		<link>http://blog.greenfieldtech.net/?p=41&#038;cpage=1#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>jicksta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you go about and browse to http://www.adhearsion.com, you are automatically redirected to http://jicksta.com/, which is Jay’s blog. Now, as much as I do respect Jay, this is a really weird way of getting people to visit your blog - isn’t it? Now, if you visit http://adhearsion.com, you reach your true destination - The Adhearsion project home page. Ok, I may be nitpicking here - but I’ll write this off as a configuration error somewhere (DNS, Apache, index file, etc).&quot;

Yes, this totally not intention. When I visit Adhearsion.com right now, I see the correct site but when Jason does, he gets a redirect to my blog. This is definitely a DNS issue and I&#039;ll take a look into it. Unfortunately, the DNS for both sites is being served by Dreamhost, a site with generally less than stellar customer satisfaction. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you go about and browse to <a href="http://www.adhearsion.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.adhearsion.com</a>, you are automatically redirected to <a href="http://jicksta.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jicksta.com/</a>, which is Jay’s blog. Now, as much as I do respect Jay, this is a really weird way of getting people to visit your blog &#8211; isn’t it? Now, if you visit <a href="http://adhearsion.com" rel="nofollow">http://adhearsion.com</a>, you reach your true destination &#8211; The Adhearsion project home page. Ok, I may be nitpicking here &#8211; but I’ll write this off as a configuration error somewhere (DNS, Apache, index file, etc).&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, this totally not intention. When I visit Adhearsion.com right now, I see the correct site but when Jason does, he gets a redirect to my blog. This is definitely a DNS issue and I&#8217;ll take a look into it. Unfortunately, the DNS for both sites is being served by Dreamhost, a site with generally less than stellar customer satisfaction. <img src='http://blog.greenfieldtech.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Rich platform, Poor documentation by jsgoecke</title>
		<link>http://blog.greenfieldtech.net/?p=41&#038;cpage=1#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>jsgoecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the kind words on the Adhearsion documentation. Lots of room for improvement and we continue to work on it. And on the www.adhearsion.com, an oversight which we will fix shortly, thanks for pointing it out.

And I do like your idea on a howto for PHPAGI developers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the kind words on the Adhearsion documentation. Lots of room for improvement and we continue to work on it. And on the <a href="http://www.adhearsion.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.adhearsion.com</a>, an oversight which we will fix shortly, thanks for pointing it out.</p>
<p>And I do like your idea on a howto for PHPAGI developers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Asterisk, Yate, FreeSwitch &#8211; what&#8217;s for you? by admin</title>
		<link>http://blog.greenfieldtech.net/?p=24&#038;cpage=1#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 19:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Diego,

Before you go about and count each carrier that uses FreeSWITCH, I&#039;d like to pin-point the term &quot;Carrier&quot; - at least as I regard a &quot;Carrier&quot;. Companies like Teliax, Bandwidth.Com, iCall and similar companies are not considered carriers in my terminology. Sure, these are well established &quot;Service Providers&quot;, but are not regarded as carriers. During the past 9 years, I&#039;ve been doing much work with various carriers, or what would be regarded as Tier-1 carriers, for example: Bezeq International (Israel), Golden Lines (Israel), MTN (Uganda), Uganda Telecom (Uganda), Orange (France), SFR (France), Vodafone (UK), etc. Out of these companies, I know of at least 4 companies that had adopted Asterisk, in some form. However, the adaptation process of Asterisk had taken over 3 years time to do - and they are still using version 1.2!

It is very simple for &quot;Service Providers&quot; to adopt tools such as FreeSWITCH or YATE into their infrastructure, simply because they are driven mainly by cost based calculations. Carriers think differently - they have no problem paying another 100K per year, maintaining their SigValue, in stead of migrating to an Open Source platform. In their view, the migration will cost much more than the yearly maintenance of the SigValue, simply because they need specially trained people to maintain it and so on. Asterisk currently enjoys a wide information base, a wide installation base, a multitude number of people already familiar with the technology - in other words, for a Carrier to venture into Asterisk is &quot;smoother&quot; than to venture into FreeSWITCH or YATE. For a service provider, it&#039;s much easier to venture into something new, simply because its scale is smaller than the Carrier&#039;s, thus, making it more agile and quick to respond to changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Diego,</p>
<p>Before you go about and count each carrier that uses FreeSWITCH, I&#8217;d like to pin-point the term &#8220;Carrier&#8221; &#8211; at least as I regard a &#8220;Carrier&#8221;. Companies like Teliax, Bandwidth.Com, iCall and similar companies are not considered carriers in my terminology. Sure, these are well established &#8220;Service Providers&#8221;, but are not regarded as carriers. During the past 9 years, I&#8217;ve been doing much work with various carriers, or what would be regarded as Tier-1 carriers, for example: Bezeq International (Israel), Golden Lines (Israel), MTN (Uganda), Uganda Telecom (Uganda), Orange (France), SFR (France), Vodafone (UK), etc. Out of these companies, I know of at least 4 companies that had adopted Asterisk, in some form. However, the adaptation process of Asterisk had taken over 3 years time to do &#8211; and they are still using version 1.2!</p>
<p>It is very simple for &#8220;Service Providers&#8221; to adopt tools such as FreeSWITCH or YATE into their infrastructure, simply because they are driven mainly by cost based calculations. Carriers think differently &#8211; they have no problem paying another 100K per year, maintaining their SigValue, in stead of migrating to an Open Source platform. In their view, the migration will cost much more than the yearly maintenance of the SigValue, simply because they need specially trained people to maintain it and so on. Asterisk currently enjoys a wide information base, a wide installation base, a multitude number of people already familiar with the technology &#8211; in other words, for a Carrier to venture into Asterisk is &#8220;smoother&#8221; than to venture into FreeSWITCH or YATE. For a service provider, it&#8217;s much easier to venture into something new, simply because its scale is smaller than the Carrier&#8217;s, thus, making it more agile and quick to respond to changes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Asterisk, Yate, FreeSwitch &#8211; what&#8217;s for you? by diegoviola</title>
		<link>http://blog.greenfieldtech.net/?p=24&#038;cpage=1#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>diegoviola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 07:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;While FreeSwitch appears to be highly scalable and doesn’t suffer much of the things that Asterisk regards as issues, its adoptation is still problematic. With a fairly lively development community and no real sense of business track, it isn’t a valid choice for most telco and carrier based customers. &quot;

It&#039;s funny how you say crap like that when most carriers and businesses are switching from Asterisk to FreeSWITCH all the time.

Some examples are Teliax Inc, Bandwidth.com, iCall, and a lot others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While FreeSwitch appears to be highly scalable and doesn’t suffer much of the things that Asterisk regards as issues, its adoptation is still problematic. With a fairly lively development community and no real sense of business track, it isn’t a valid choice for most telco and carrier based customers. &#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how you say crap like that when most carriers and businesses are switching from Asterisk to FreeSWITCH all the time.</p>
<p>Some examples are Teliax Inc, Bandwidth.com, iCall, and a lot others.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FreeSWITCH &#8211; Comments from Anthony Minessale by anthm</title>
		<link>http://blog.greenfieldtech.net/?p=31&#038;cpage=1#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>anthm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I do not travel very much, but you are invited to come to ClueCon where many of the presentations will feature FreeSWITCH as well as many other open source telephony projects, even YATE, but we only tend to get a YATE community member not Diana herself (I think she hates us as much or more than she hates Asterisk but I could be wrong)  We really are making an effort to bring together all open source telephony and work together.  We even have had the privilege of having Asterisk Open Source Community director John Todd from Digium as an atendee last year and he&#039;s slated to appear again this summer.
We actually even host all my old Asterisk modules on our site still http://www.freeswitch.org/node/50


As for the &quot;business track&quot;, duly noted.  We have spent all of our time focusing on making sure we are stable before we try to sing our praises to many and those companies we mentioned who were indeed early adopters have done us a great service in reaching that goal.  I&#039;ll try and get some of our European community members to attend Amoocon next year perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I do not travel very much, but you are invited to come to ClueCon where many of the presentations will feature FreeSWITCH as well as many other open source telephony projects, even YATE, but we only tend to get a YATE community member not Diana herself (I think she hates us as much or more than she hates Asterisk but I could be wrong)  We really are making an effort to bring together all open source telephony and work together.  We even have had the privilege of having Asterisk Open Source Community director John Todd from Digium as an atendee last year and he&#8217;s slated to appear again this summer.<br />
We actually even host all my old Asterisk modules on our site still <a href="http://www.freeswitch.org/node/50" rel="nofollow">http://www.freeswitch.org/node/50</a></p>
<p>As for the &#8220;business track&#8221;, duly noted.  We have spent all of our time focusing on making sure we are stable before we try to sing our praises to many and those companies we mentioned who were indeed early adopters have done us a great service in reaching that goal.  I&#8217;ll try and get some of our European community members to attend Amoocon next year perhaps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Asterisk, Yate, FreeSwitch &#8211; what&#8217;s for you? by FreeSWITCH - Comments from Anthony Minessale &#124; Just another Asterisk day...</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Asterisk, Yate, FreeSwitch &#8211; what&#8217;s for you? by anthm</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for mentioning us in your blog.  I wanted to clear a few things up for you.
1) it&#039;s FreeSWITCH not FreeSwitch.
2) We indeed have a business track http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com
3) I disagree that FreeSWITCH isn&#039;t a valid choice for most carriers based on the several customers we have who are indeed carriers including bandwidth.com iCall Teliax to name a few.  Most of these carriers are also sponsors of the ClueCon conference in Chicago this summer http://www.cluecon.com

It seems as though you are turned off by the fact that YATE was trying to hard to promote itself but then you commented that we don&#039;t try hard enough to do the same.  One would expect from your comments about YATE that you would like the fact that we tend not to blow our own horn.  We are an Open Source project, take it or leave it, Like you said, &quot;right tool for the job&quot; use one, use all.  If you make up your mind to use FreeSWITCH and you want to get commercial support we provide it but we as a policy do not try to &quot;sell&quot; FreeSWITCH to anyone.  But we do offer a triple-your-money-back Guarantee on the software itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for mentioning us in your blog.  I wanted to clear a few things up for you.<br />
1) it&#8217;s FreeSWITCH not FreeSwitch.<br />
2) We indeed have a business track <a href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br />
3) I disagree that FreeSWITCH isn&#8217;t a valid choice for most carriers based on the several customers we have who are indeed carriers including bandwidth.com iCall Teliax to name a few.  Most of these carriers are also sponsors of the ClueCon conference in Chicago this summer <a href="http://www.cluecon.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cluecon.com</a></p>
<p>It seems as though you are turned off by the fact that YATE was trying to hard to promote itself but then you commented that we don&#8217;t try hard enough to do the same.  One would expect from your comments about YATE that you would like the fact that we tend not to blow our own horn.  We are an Open Source project, take it or leave it, Like you said, &#8220;right tool for the job&#8221; use one, use all.  If you make up your mind to use FreeSWITCH and you want to get commercial support we provide it but we as a policy do not try to &#8220;sell&#8221; FreeSWITCH to anyone.  But we do offer a triple-your-money-back Guarantee on the software itself.</p>
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